The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin

Excerpted from “The City of God” by Ven. Mary of Agreda:

In order that the Apostles, the Disciples, and many others of the faithful might not be too deeply oppressed by sorrow, and in order that some of them might not die of grief caused by the passing away of the Most Blessed Mary, it was necessary that the Divine Power, by an especial providence, furnish them with consolation and dilate their heart for new influences in their incomparable affliction. For the feeling, that their loss was irretrievable in the present life, could not be repressed; the privation of such a Treasure could never find a recompense; and as most sweet, loving and amiable intercourse and conversation of their Great Queen had ravished the heart of each one, the ceasing of Her protection and company left them as it were without the breath of life. But the Lord, Who well knew how to estimate the just cause of their sorrow, secretly upheld them by His encouragements and so they set about the fitting burial of the sacred body and whatever the occasion demanded.

Accordingly the Holy Apostles, on whom this duty specially devolved, held a conference concerning the burial of the most sacred body of their Queen and Lady. They selected for that purpose a new sepulchre, which had been prepared mysteriously by the providence of Her Divine Son. As they remembered, that, according to the custom of the Jews at burial, the Deified Body of Their Master had been anointed with precious ointments and spices and wrapped in the sacred burial cloths; they thought not of doing otherwise with the Virginal body of His Most Holy Mother. Accordingly they called the two maidens, who had assisted the Queen during Her life and who had been designated as the heiresses of Her tunics, and instructed them to anoint the Body of the Mother of God with highest reverence and modesty and wrap it in the winding-sheets before it should be placed in the casket. With great reverence and fear the two maidens entered the room, where the Body of the Blessed Lady lay upon its couch; but the refulgence issuing from it barred and blinded them in such a manner that they could neither see nor touch the Body, nor even ascertain in what particular place it rested.

In fear and reverence still greater than on their entrance, the maidens left the room; and in great excitement and wonder they told the Apostles what had happened. They, not without Divine Inspiration, came to the conclusion, that this Sacred Ark of the Covenant was not to be touched or handled in the common way. Then Saint Peter and Saint John entered the oratory and perceived the effulgence, and at the same time they heard the celestial music of the Angels, who were singing: “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with Thee.” Others responded: “A Virgin before childbirth, in childbirth and after childbirth.” From that time on many of the faithful expressed their devotion toward the Most Blessed Mary in these words of praise; and from them they were handed down to be repeated by us with the approbation of the Holy Church. The two Holy Apostles, Saint Peter and Saint John, were for a time lost in admiration at what they saw and heard of their Queen; and in order to decide what to do, they sank on their knees, beseeching the Lord to make it known. Then they heard a voice saying: “Let not the sacred body be either uncovered or touched.”

Having thus been informed of the Will of God, they brought a bier, and, the effulgence having diminished somewhat, they approached the couch and with their own hands reverently took hold of the tunic at the two ends. Thus, without changing its posture, they raised the sacred and Virginal Treasure and placed it on the bier in the same position as it had occupied on the couch. They could easily do this, because they felt no more weight than that of the tunic. On this bier the former effulgence of the body moderated still more, and all of them, by disposition of the Lord and for the consolation of all those present, could now perceive and study the beauty of that Virginal Countenance and of Her hands. As for the rest, the Omnipotence of God protected this His Heavenly Dwelling, so that neither in life nor in death anyone should behold any other part except what is common in ordinary conversation, namely, Her most inspiring countenance, by which She had been known, and Her hands, by which She had labored.

So great was the care and solicitude for His Most Blessed Mother, that in this particular He used not so much precaution in regard to His Own Body, as that of the Most Pure Virgin. In Her Immaculate Conception He made Her like to Himself; likewise at Her birth, in as far as it did not take place in the common and natural manner of other men. He preserved Her also from impure temptations and thoughts. But, as He was man and the Redeemer of the world through His Passion and Death, He permitted with His Own Body, what He would not allow with Hers, as that of a woman, and therefore He kept her Virginal body entirely concealed; in fact the Most Pure Lady during Her life had Herself asked that no one should be permitted to look upon it in death; which petition He fulfilled. Then the Apostles consulted further about Her burial. Their decision becoming known among the multitudes of the faithful in Jerusalem, they brought many candles to be lighted at the bier, and it happened that all the lights burned through that day and the two following days without any of the candles being consumed or wasted in any shape or manner.

In order that this and many other miracles wrought by the Power of God on this occasion might become better known to the world, the Lord Himself inspired all the inhabitants of Jerusalem to be present at the burial of His Most Blessed Mother, so that there was scarcely any person in Jerusalem, even of the Jews or the gentiles, who were not attracted by the novelty of this spectacle. The Apostles took upon their shoulders the sacred body and the Tabernacle of God and, as Priests of the Evangelical Law, bore the Propitiatory of the Divine Oracles and Blessings in orderly procession from the Cenacle in the city to the valley of Josaphat. This was the visible accompaniment of the dwellers of Jerusalem.

In the midst of this celestial and earthly accompaniment, visible and invisible, the Apostles bore along the sacred body, and on the way happened great miracles, which would take much time to relate. In particular all the sick, of which there were many of the different kinds, were entirely cured. Many of the possessed were freed from the demons; for the evil spirits did not dare to wait until the sacred body came near the persons thus afflicted. Greater still were the miracles of conversions wrought among many Jews and gentiles, for on this occasion were opened up the Treasures of Divine Mercy, so that many souls came to the knowledge of Christ Our Savior and loudly confessed Him as the True God and Redeemer, demanding Baptism. Many days thereafter the Apostles and Disciples labored hard in catechizing and Baptizing those, who on that day had been converted to the Holy Faith. The Apostles in carrying the sacred body felt wonderful effects of Divine Light and Consolation, in which the Disciples shared according to their measure. All the multitudes of the people were seized with astonishment at the fragrance diffused about the sweet music and the other prodigies. They proclaimed God great and powerful in this Creature and in testimony of their acknowledgment, they struck their breasts in sorrow and compunction.

When the procession came to the Holy Sepulchre in the valley of Josaphat, the same two Apostles, Saint Peter and Saint John, who had laid the Celestial Treasure from the couch onto the bier, with joyful reverence placed it in the Sepulchre and covered it with a linen cloth, the hands of the Angels performing more of these last rites than the hands of the Apostles. They closed up the Sepulchre with a large stone, according to custom at other burials. The Celestial Courtiers returned to Heaven, while the Thousand Angels of the Queen continued their watch, guarding the sacred body and keeping up the music as at Her burial. The concourse of the people lessened and the Holy Apostles and Disciples, dissolved in tender tears, returned to the Cenacle. During a whole year the exquisite fragrance exhaled by the Body of the Queen was noticeable throughout the Cenacle, and in Her oratory, for many years. This sanctuary remained a place of refuge for all those that were burdened with labor and difficulties; all found miraculous assistance, as well in sickness as in hardships and necessities of other kind. After these miracles had continued for some years in Jerusalem, the sins of Jerusalem and of its inhabitants drew upon this city, among other punishments, that of being deprived of this inestimable blessing.

Having again gathered in the Cenacle, the Apostles came to the conclusion that some of them and of the Disciples should watch at the Sepulchre of their Queen as long as they should hear the celestial music, for all of them were wondering when the end of that miracle should be. Accordingly some of them attended to the affairs of the Church in catechizing and baptizing the new converts; and others immediately returned to the Sepulchre, while all of them paid frequent visits to it during the next three days. Saint Peter and Saint John, however, were more zealous in their attendance, coming only a few times to the Cenacle and immediately returning to where was laid the Treasure of their heart.

Of the glory and felicity of the saints in the beatific vision Saint Paul says with Isaias [1 Cor. 2, 9; Is. 64, 4], that neither have mortal eyes seen, nor ears heard, nor can it enter into the heart of man what God has prepared for those who love Him and who hope in Him. In accordance with this Catholic Truth, we should not wonder at what is related of Saint Augustine, the Great Light of the Church, that, in setting out to write a book on the Glory of the Blessed, he was visited by his friend, Saint Jerome, who had just died and entered into the Glory of the Lord, and was admonished by his visitor, that he would not be able to compass His design; since no tongue or pen of man could describe the least part of the blessings enjoyed by the saints in the beatific vision.

If on this account the glory even of the least of the Saints is ineffable, what shall we say of the Glory of the Most Blessed Mary, since among the Saints She is the Most Holy and She by Herself is more like to Her Son than all the Saints together, and since Her grace and glory exceed those of all the rest. as those of an empress or sovereign over Her vassals? This truth can and should be believed; but in mortal life it cannot be understood, or the least part of it be explained; for the inadequacy and deficiency of our words and expressions rather tend to obscure than to set forth its greatness. Let us in this life apply our labor, not in seeking to comprehend it, but in seeking to merit its manifestation in glory, where we shall experience more or less of this happiness according to our works.

Our Redeemer Jesus entered heaven conducting the Purest Soul of His Mother at His right hand. She alone of all the mortals deserved exemption from particular judgment; hence for Her there was none; no account was asked or demanded of Her for what She had received; for such was the promise that had been given to Her, when She was exempted from the common guilt and chosen as the Queen privileged above the laws of the children of Adam. For the same reason, instead of being judged with the rest, She shall be seated at the right hand of the Judge to judge with Him all the creatures. If in the first instant of Her Conception She was the brightest Aurora, effulgent with the rays of the sun of the Divinity beyond all the brightness of the Most Exalted Seraphim, and if afterwards She was still further illumined by the contact of the Hypostatic Word, who derived His Humanity from Her Purest Substance, it necessarily follows that She should be His Companion for all eternity, possessing such a likeness to Him, that none greater can be possible between a God-man and a creature. In this light the Redeemer Himself presented Her before the Throne of the Divinity; and speaking to the Eternal Father in the presence of all the Blessed, who were ravished at this wonder, the most Sacred Humanity uttered these words: “Eternal Father, My Most Beloved Mother, Thy Beloved Daughter and the Cherished Spouse of the Holy Ghost, now comes to take possession of the Crown and Glory, which We have prepared as a reward for Her merit. She is the One Who was born as the Rose among thorns, untouched, pure and beautiful, worthy of being embraced by Us and of being placed upon a Throne to which none of our creatures can ever attain, and to which those conceived in sin cannot aspire. This is Our chosen and Our only One, distinguished above all else, to Whom We communicated Our Grace and Our Perfections beyond the measure accorded to other creatures; in Whom We have deposited the Treasure of our Incomprehensible Divinity and Its gifts; Who most faithfully preserved and made fruitful the talents, which We gave Her; who never swerved from Our Will, and who found grace and pleasure in Our eyes. My Father, Most Equitous is the Tribunal of Our Justice and Mercy, and in it the services of Our Friends are repaid in the most superabundant manner. It is right that to My Mother be given the reward of a Mother; and if during Her whole life and in all Her work She was as like to Me as is possible for a creature to be, let Her also be as like to Me in glory and on the Throne of Our Majesty, so that where Holiness is in essence, there it may also be found in its highest participation.”

This Decree of the Incarnate Word was approved by the Father and the Holy Ghost. The Most Holy Soul of Mary was immediately raised to the Right Hand of Her Son and True God, and placed on the Royal Throne of the Most Holy Trinity, which neither men, nor Angels nor the Seraphim themselves attain, and will not attain for all eternity. This is the most exalted and super-eminent privilege of our Queen and Lady, that She is seated on the Throne with the Three Divine Persons and holds Her place as Empress, while all the rest are set as servants and ministers to the Highest King. To the eminence and majesty of that position, inaccessible to all other creatures, correspond Her gifts of glory, comprehension, vision and fruition; because She enjoys, above all and more than all, that Infinite Object, which the other Blessed enjoy in an endless variety of degrees. She knows, penetrates and understands much deeper the Eternal Being and its infinite attributes; She lovingly delights in its mysteries and most hidden secrets, more than all the rest of the Blessed.

Just as little can be explained the extra joy, which the Blessed experienced on that day in singing the new songs of praise to the Omnipotent and in celebrating the glory of His Daughter, Mother and Spouse; for in Her He had exalted all the works of His Right Hand. Although to the Lord Himself could come no new or essential Glory, because He possessed and possesses it immutably infinite through all eternity; yet the exterior manifestations of His pleasure and satisfaction at the fulfillment of His eternal decrees were greater on that day.

On the third day after the most pure soul of Mary had taken possession of this Glory never to leave it, the Lord manifested to the Saints His Divine Will, that She should return to the World, resuscitate Her sacred body and unite Herself with it, so that She might in body and soul be again raised to the right hand of Her Divine Son without waiting for the general resurrection of the dead. The appropriateness of this favor, its accordance with the others received by the Most Blessed Queen and with Her super-eminent dignity, the Saints could not but see; since even to mortals it is so credible, that even if the Church had not certified it, we would judge those impious and foolish, who would dare deny it. But the blessed saw it with greater clearness, together with the determined time and hour as manifested to them in God himself. When the time: for this wonder had arrived, Christ Our Savior Himself descended from heaven bringing with Him at His right hand the soul of His Most Blessed Mother and accompanied by many legions of the Angels, the Patriarchs and ancient Prophets. They came to the sepulchre in the valley of Josaphat, and all being gathered in sight of the virginal temple, The Lord spoke the following words to the Saints.

“My Mother was conceived without stain of sin, in order that from Her virginal substance I might stainlessly clothe Myself in the humanity in which I came to the world and redeemed it from sin. My flesh is Her flesh; She co-operated with Me in the works of the Redemption; hence I must raise Her, just as I rose from the dead, and this shall be at the same time and hour. For I wish to make Her like Me in all things.” All the ancient Saints of the human race then gave thanks for this new favor in songs of praise and glory to the Lord. Those that especially distinguished themselves in their thanksgiving were our first parents Adam and Eve, Saint Anne, Saint Joachim and Saint Joseph, as being the more close partakers in this miracle of His Omnipotence. Then the Purest Soul of the Queen, at the command of the Lord, entered the Virginal Body, reanimated it and raised it up, giving it a new life of immortality and glory and communicating to it the four gifts of Clearness, Impassability, Agility and Subtlety, corresponding to those of the soul and overflowing from it into the body.

Endowed with these gifts the Most Blessed Mary issued from the tomb in body and soul, without raising the stone cover and without disturbing the position of the tunic and the mantle that had enveloped Her Sacred Body. Since it is impossible to describe Her beauty and refulgent glory, I will not make the attempt. It is sufficient to say, that just as the Heavenly Mother had given to Her Divine Son in Her womb the form of man, pure, unstained and sinless, for the Redemption of the World, so in return The Lord, in this Resurrection and new regeneration, gave to Her a glory and beauty similar to His Own. In this mysterious and Divine interchange each One did what was possible: Most Holy Mary engendered Christ, assimilating Him as much as possible to Herself, and Christ resuscitated Her, communicating to Her of His Glory as far as She was capable as a creature.

Then from the sepulchre was started a most solemn procession, moving with celestial music through the regions of the air and toward the Empyrean Heaven. This happened in the hour immediately after midnight, in which also the Lord had risen from the grave; and therefore not all of the Apostles were witness of this prodigy, but only some of them, who were present and watching at the sepulchre. The Saints and Angels entered Heaven in the order in which they had started; and in the last place came Christ Our Savior and at His right hand the Queen, clothed in the gold of variety [as David says Ps. 44, 10], and so beautiful that She was the admiration of the Heavenly Court. All of them turned toward Her to look upon Her and bless Her with new jubilee and songs of praise. Thus were heard those mysterious eulogies recorded by Solomon: Come, daughters of Sion, to see your Queen, who is praised by the morning stars and celebrated by the sons of the Most High. Who is She that comes from the desert, like a column of all the aromatic perfumes? Who is She, that rises like the aurora, more beautiful than the moon, elect as the sun, terrible as many serried armies? Who is She that comes up from the desert resting upon Her Beloved and spreading forth abundant delights? [Cant. 3, 6-9; 8, 5]. Who is She in whom the Deity itself finds so much pleasure and delight above all other creatures and whom He exalts above them all in the heavens! O novelty worthy of the Infinite Wisdom! O prodigy of His Omnipotence, which so magnifies and exalts Her!

Amid this glory the Most Blessed Mary arrived body and soul at the throne of the Most Blessed Trinity. And the three Divine Persons received Her on it with an embrace eternally indissoluble. The Eternal Father said to Her: “Ascend higher, My Daughter and My Dove.” The Incarnate Word spoke: “My Mother, of whom I have received human being and full return of My work in Thy perfect imitation, receive now from My hand the reward Thou hast merited.” The Holy Ghost said: “My Most Beloved Spouse, enter into the eternal joy, which corresponds to the most faithful love; do Thou now enjoy Thy love without solicitude; for past is the winter of suffering for Thou hast arrived at our Eternal embraces.” There the Most Blessed Mary was absorbed in the contemplation of the three Divine Persons and as it were overwhelmed in the boundless ocean and abyss of the Divinity, while the Saints were filled with wonder and new accidental delight. Since, at the occasion of this work of the Omnipotent happened other wonders, I shall speak of them as far as possible in the following chapter.

My Daughter, lamentable and inexcusable is the ignorance of men in so knowingly forgetting the Eternal Glory, which God has prepared for those who dispose themselves to merit it. I wish that Thou bitterly bewail and deplore this pernicious forgetfulness; for there is no doubt, that whoever willfully forgets the Eternal Glory and happiness is in evident danger of losing it. No one is free from this guilt, not only because men do not apply much labor or effort in seeking and retaining the remembrance of this happiness; but they labor with all their powers in things that make them forget the end for which they were created. Undoubtedly this forgetfulness arises from their entangling themselves in the pride of life, the covetousness of the eyes, and the desires of the flesh [John 2, 16]; for employing therein all the forces and faculties of their soul during the whole time of their life, they have no leisure, care or attention for the thoughts of Eternal Felicity. Let men acknowledge and confess, whether this recollection costs them more labor than to follow their blind passions, seeking after honors, possessions or the transitory pleasures, all of which have an end with this life, and which, after much striving and labor, many men do not, and can never attain.

This is a sorrow beyond all sorrows, and a misfortune without equal and without remedy. Afflict Thyself, lament and grieve without consolation over this ruin of so many souls bought by the Blood of My Divine Son. I assure Thee, My dearest, that, if men would not make themselves so unworthy of it, my charity would urge me, in the Celestial Glory where Thou knowest Me to be, to send forth a voice through the whole world exclaiming: “Mortal and deceived men, what are you doing? For what purpose are you living? Do you realize what it is to see God face to face, and to participate in His Eternal Glory and share His company? Of what are you thinking? Who has thus disturbed and fascinated your judgment? What will you seek, if once you have lost this true blessing and happiness, since there is no other? The labor is short, the reward is Infinite Glory, and the punishment is Eternal.”

A Blessed and Holy Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin to all! May she intercede for the Church and bring Her swiftly to Her liberty and exaltation.

~Damsel of the Faith

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25 thoughts on “The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin

  1. spookchristian

    That particular Assumption is a lie, it is not found in the Bible, and like all roman catholic so called teachings, it is false, and deceptive.
    You need to repent of this demonic dogma and ask the Lord Jesus Christ into your life,get saved,Mary can do nothing for you.
    And get a Bible please. preferably a KJV /AV 1611

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    1. Joe Chi Mihn

      The dogma of the Assumption of Our Lady was believed and maintained by Christian Tradition since the Apostles and remained uncontested by all Christians and biblical scholars around the world for over 1500 years until after the Reformation.
      Spook, Who are you to say otherwise, and who are you to care what’s in the bible and what’s not when your 99cent paperback bible has 7 books ripped out of it’s original text? You’re clueless about what the Bible is and where it comes from. Like all protestants you seem to think it magically fell out the sky like the book or Mormon or something, and that’s all there is to a Faith. You’re the one who needs to repent for BLASPHEMY against the Mother of God on her feast day.

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      1. damselofthefaith Post author

        Also, how dare you insult the Mother of God by saying She can do nothing for you. Actually, She gave you Jesus Christ in the flesh. He honors His Mother over every other creature. I shudder to imagine what He will say to those such as yourself who blaspheme and dishonor His Mother.

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      2. spookchristian

        Your comments:
        are ‘ un-edified / un-learned ‘, and obviously parroted by you, after a #catholic so called priest, filled your mind with a false history, and all the doctrines of demons that he could think of.

        You really need to get yourself a history book,
        You also have no idea whatsoever, what my view of Scripture is, neither my understanding of the origin of God’s word.
        The Apocrypha has never been accepted as inspired, or part of the canon.
        The Jewish scholars never accepted it.
        the so called adoration of Mary is nowhere to be found in the Scriptures.
        It is an heresy, as is the so called assumption.
        A very big assumption as well !!

        You need to grow up !!

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      3. newenglandsun

        I find it funny how spookchristian says you guys need a history book. Has spookchristian graduated magna cum laude with a bachelor’s degree focusing on European history? Has spookchristian read any history books? Clearly, he has not. Otherwise, he would know that his precious “Reformation” that he clings to as the sole source of his animosity toward the Catholic Church was neither unified nor supportive of all Protestantism. Every single reformer wanted their own church to be right. They disobeyed the authority of the Catholic Church to create their own church.

        And for goodness sake, the KJV is an ANGLICAN Bible used by many Continuing Anglicans still to this day including many Anglo-Catholics such as myself. And we affirm much the same thing as the Catholic and Orthodox Churches. Why I haven’t converted to Catholicism yet–I am convinced that the orders of my ACA church are valid.

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    2. newenglandsun

      Revelation 12 – 13 And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. 14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time.[b] 15 The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman,[c] and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood[d] on the sand of the sea.
      Naturally, you, the dragon, are angry with Mary, the woman described here and do not believe in her Assumption to Heaven or that she is Queen of Heaven even though both the Bible and the Tradition of the ancient Church declare her to be.

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      1. spookchristian

        The woman in Revelation 12 is not mary.
        If that is Mary, then she is pregnant again..
        Queen of heaven is used a couple of times in the Scriptures, and she is in fact a pagan so called deity, called ‘ Semiramis or Ashtoroth ‘.
        Go figure.

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      2. newenglandsun

        “Lion” is used a few times in scriptures–it is used to describe Satan and Jesus. Go figure–according to your logic Satan=Jesus (both are also referred to as the “morning star” as well).

        Revelation 12 is not “predicting the future” as many think but is explaining past, present, and future events at the same time. The woman in Revelation 12 is Mary unless you are saying a different woman gave birth to Jesus or that there is going to be a second Messiah which makes you a heretic.

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      3. spookchristian

        The woman in Revelation 12 is definitely not Mary, because those events did not happen to her.
        Mary was not carried away into the wilderness etc..
        There is a difference between going about ‘ Like ‘ a roaring lion, and being the Lion of the tribe of Judah.
        Also, your so called title for Mary is Blasphemous, as you give to her the title of a pagan so called deity, that of Semiramis / Ashtoroth.

        The religion of catholicism is a monstrosity, and an abomination.

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    3. editor

      Well, “spook” there’s no mention of essential dogma of “The Trinity” in the Bible either so what does that tell us? It tells us a couple of things, crucially that we do not have one source for our beliefs; we are not a “people of the book”. It was, in fact, the Catholic Church which gave us Scriptures, and was/is mandated by Christ Himself to teach us in His Name. After all, if Christ had meant us to use only the Bible, what were His followers to do in the years before the Scriptures were written and, thereafter, for the first 1500 years until printing presses were invented? Even then not everyone could obtain a copy easily. I see you are exhorting us to check history but, with respect, your own grasp of history, not to mention the nature, purpose and divinely bequeathed authority of Christ’s Church is lamentably lacking, sadly. After all, Protestants claim to be basing their beliefs on “Scripture alone” but ignore whole passages of Scripture because they point clearly to Catholicism. St John’s Gospel Chapter 6 springs to mind, as well as the Petrine verses (“Thou art Peter…”)

      We’ll entrust you to our beautiful Lady, our heavenly Mother – and your Mother, too. She loves you, “spook” more than your own mother does, so please ask her to help you come to the truths of the Christian faith which are nowhere to be found in their fullness outside the Catholic Church. Remember, just as you won’t find the word “Trinity” in the New Testament, but you will find that Christians held to this dogma from the beginning, so, too, with the Assumption of Our Lady. THAT is the litmus test for Christians – what has been believed everywhere, always and by everyone? That’s Christian Tradition which, coupled with the Scriptures, forms the basis of our religion.

      God bless

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  2. spookchristian

    I have made no insulting comments regarding Mary at all. so you need to repent of your false accusation, and you should get hold of a bible for once.
    You, as a woman, should not be presuming to teach anyone.
    You need to apologize for your accusation.

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    1. newenglandsun

      No. You are definitely insulting Mary. Also, according to the precious KJV of yours, “when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly” (Acts 18:26)
      Sounds like Priscilla, a woman, is teaching someone. Specifically, Apollos, a man. I think you are simply telling Damsel not to teach theology to people as a woman because she has exposed you as the heretic you are–and Satan hates being exposed.

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      1. spookchristian

        I am certainly not insulting Mary, in fact it is you who are doing so, by giving her the Babylonian title of ‘ queen of heaven ‘.
        Nowhere in Scripture, more especially the NT, is Mary described as the Q of H.

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      2. spookchristian

        Just been to your blog,, it is a tad silly.
        You say that you are an
        Agnostic, and then you start spouting so called theology.
        It is ridiculous.
        You are obviously the clown..
        🙂

        …”….yawns…………”…….

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      3. newenglandsun

        Yeah, an agnostic as in not a Gnostic heretic like you are! I remain open to what the Church teaches me whereas you deny what the Church teaches. It is because I do not know that I accept with faith what the Church teaches. You proclaim to know right from wrong on your own which is a product of pride.

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      4. spookchristian

        I am no heretic, simply because I follow the Word of God, and you so obviously do not.
        Your accusations are childish, and baseless.
        Grow up.

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  3. spookchristian

    Your assertions are ridiculous.
    Priscilla and Aquila, were probably only explaining the basics to the person concerned, and would most certainly,have directed him, to an Apostle.

    By the way, on the subject of Apostle’s, there are no Apostles today, or since the Apostle John died, and therefore the blasphemous dogma of ‘ Apostolic succession ‘ is a lie, as no-one could actually qualify as an Apostle, since the last Apostle, i.e. John died.

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  4. j

    The protestant reformation was a catastrophe.

    It was Erasmus’ New Testament translation in 1516 that influenced so many of the protestant reformers. He would attack Jerome, of a thousand years before, with his new commentary of what the Bible text means; John the Baptist’s cry in the wilderness as strictly a cerebral notion, as opposed to Jerome’s penance, any hint of Mary in the Old Testament being unfounded allegory…

    Erasmus, the prince of humanist was a master of compromise. Erasmus fled the monastic life, having fallen in love with a fellow monk, Servatius Rogerus, to rove about living off the writings of his letters.

    He would continue to grub about with his new revision three years later in 1519, attacking Gabriel’s greeting to Mary as simply gracious, as opposed to full of grace…

    Luther’s rift with Erasmus was based on Luther’s increasingly dark view of human potential as opposed to Erasmus’ humanistic ideology of how the world might be changed with reasonable reform. Luther of course insisted that human reason was totally corrupted and useless in the theology as a result of the “fall”. Erasmus would eventually be forced back to the existing structures of the Catholic Church as a result of his disputations with reformers like Luther saying, “Therefore I will put up with this Church until I see a better one; and it will have to put up with me, until I become better.”

    Tragically, Luther, Zwingli, Melanchthon, Calvin and the rest would, as Erasmus bemoaned, choose their ideas of Augustine’s doctrine of grace, and reject his doctrine of the Church.

    Luther, the unhappy monk, devised a barbarian creed – salvation by faith alone. Luther, known to have bouts with the devil as they hurled insults and feces at one another, and engage in battle by fart, would be set free from his own sinfulness by faith alone!, while being relieved of a bout of constipation. “Knowledge the Holy Spirit gave me on the privy, in the tower”, Luther would say. His theology was morally deficient of any intelligence or forethought.

    The dump that Luther left on the theological landscape is of no ‘value’ to the Church. This would be Luther’s throne, the toilet. He should have wiped his mouth before he flushed.

    The identification of the Church and Commonwealth became a big problem for Luther. Luther could not help but get involved with politics. That was the foundation of his theology, the integration of the ecclesiastical and civil authorities, a state church – the godly Prince replaces the Pope.

    Calvin’s Geneva , however, would become a police state. His philosophy was to keep the Church separate and distinct from the secular authorities as two distinct entities working together for the good of God. This worked well for Calvin when he had Michael Servetus burned at the stake, and several of his opposition who objected to his increasing support from the civic elite, beheaded with their heads nailed up.

    Zwingli had a more humanistic view of the commonwealth, following the teachings of Erasmus; viewing the community as the church, one in the same. Baptism didn’t wash away sin, is simply welcomed one into the community of believers. This would eventually be a problem for him however, as radical separatists would reject infant baptism because babies couldn’t have faith – this didn’t work well for Zwingli’s attempt at an orderly Christian community. Zwingli, the “preaching pacifist” would show up at his major dispute with Luther wearing a wooden sword on his side, as some kind of demonstration of his goofy theology, much to the shock and repudiation of all those present – only to untimely be thrust through and die in battle himself as he rode out to defend his village from a motley crew of marauders and rapists intent on pillaging his women and children. Luther of course couldn’t resist the temptation to ridicule Zwingli upon his death with one of his infamous scriptural jabs, “He who lives by the sword dies by the sword!” Luther, hu..

    Eucharist theology was a big part of the picture as the opposing camps attempted to distinguish themselves from one another in their understanding of Communion.

    Luther would eventually advocate a consubstantiation of some sort. Zwingli rejected any notion of the presence of Christ in the bread. To him it was just a symbolic expression of a believer’s faith. Calvin, well his ideas were a little more complicated. The poor fella became hopelessly confused because of his utter rejection of Mary as anything more than a sack, and eventually ended up advocating some kind of symbolic instrumentalism – something about signs of a reality that become instruments of grace that unite, bla bla blaaa. I could go on, but it’s so difficult for me to dwell on this kind of nonsense.

    A Catholic mystic is never outside the Magisterium of the Church. The heretical spirituali however, like John Wyclif and the Lollards, Hussites, and those who would follow the pernicious ways of the Protestants all rejected the Church, and the Truth Jesus Christ teaches through Her.

    The protestant reformation has been a colossal failure all around.

    The protesters reject the Eucharist as a popish trick, but demand that you swallow their heretical counterfeit religion as the Gospel. Whatever we gain through compromise, we will ultimately lose.

    Isn’t it interesting that the birth of “open-air” preaching originated with the Barnibites, as an order of priests whose mission was to foster enthusiasm for worship among the laity? Modeled after the Theatines, an order of clergy with special vows that would provide an example of consciencoiusness and a high level of serious minded commitment, the Barnibites pioneered preaching missions and open-air devotional processions in the mid 1530’s.

    They would set the example for the disciples of none other than Inigo Lopez Do Loyola – Ignatius. These bold preachers of hell fire were actors and showmen – they brought Gods circus to town. First order of business was to find some central market town conveniently located with outlying villages. They would set out to draw a crowd, and draw a crowd they did! They were specialists in the dramatic. There’s was a theatrical show like none other – heart stopping reality unlike anything people had ever seen. And having successfully set the stage, they would conduct what they called mission ‘raids’ in the outlying areas. Along with their radical preaching techniques, were the triumphant revivalist processions through the streets with the Blessed Sacrament. Devotional expeditions’ and processional drama was their specialty.

    Let me set the stage: Its sixteenth century Italy in the city of Macerata . The carnival is coming to town. Social values will be turned on their head as a result of the revelry. Not to be undone, the Jesuits schedule their appearance in direct conflict. They are over the top with their dramatic exaggerations of ‘the slave of the virgin’ procession with participants loaded down with chains. They would out-do their competition. Carnival or no – they got their point across.

    Suddenly one of them gains the crowd’s attention, and having previously obtained a list of the dead dignitaries, he begins calling out names one by one. Someone finally says, ‘they’re all dead’!

    “Pressed together, distilled in decaying and contagious humors, and touching mouth to mouth!” cracks the Jesuit voice – both respectable and peasant together in hell, being his main point.

    “The world is our house”, was the Jesuit calling card, preaching and hearing confessions as ordained; something that would be copied two centuries later with a protestant slant by John Wesley, the founder of Methodism – “The world is my parish”. As a mouthpiece for the Hussite and Lollard heresies of the fourteenth century, curiously finding their way onto the theological landscape of eighteenth century England , Wesley would have a profound effect in America through his disciple Francis Ashbury. Wesley of course would fail in his attempts at religion in America , having sided with the British in the Revolutionary war.

    Francis would continue to carry Wesley’s mixed bag of theology throughout land however, and have continuing influence in American politics, etc.

    In any event, we must continue to preach the True Gospel and expose heresy where we find it.

    Zwingli considered Luther to be some kind of prophet, and even labeled him as Elijah at one point, something he would come to regret, I think, even though he was the first person to do it. But Zwingli’s radicalism was something that Luther never anticipated and eventually repudiated. Luther had opened a huge can of ‘ Worms ’, no pun intended (I’m sorry – I couldn’t resist) that fateful day of October 31, 1517. Meanwhile, Our Lady of Guadalupe was preparing to appear in the mountains of Mexico to a peasant man named Juan Diego.

    He was wearing a poncho, upon which Mary’s likeness supernaturally appeared, when he poured forth the roses he was carrying before the Bishop. These roses were to be a sign to the Bishop that what Juan was trying to say about the beautiful woman that he has seen was true. No roses were blooming in Mexico at the time. This poncho still hangs behind the Alter at this Church, and has been under more critique and scientific examination than the Shroud of Turin, with no satisfactory explanations as to its origin.

    Zwingli took things further than Luther could approve of in his evangelical zeal. Zwingli claimed that he owed Luther nothing in the development of his reformation theology; just a mere sixteenth century coincidence, that’s all. Well, he eventually jettisoned the whole idea of communion being a sacrament at all, since the term was appropriated by the Latin Church from the Roman army’s idea of a soldier’s oath anyway.

    There was no presence of Christ in the bread at all; no transubstantiation, no consubstantiation, no nothing, just a remembrance, that’s all, and Luther couldn’t agree with that. Infant baptism fell by the wayside as a result of dissident ultra-Zwinglians insisting it wasn’t necessary since babies couldn’t have faith anyway. It was in 1523, after a rough time of iconoclastic vandalism, that Zurich produced the first official statement of doctrine of the reformation, banning images and then the Mass; kind of like a city ordinance concerning parking violations, I suppose.

    In any event, Zwingli sure was successful in shinning off the established Church and putting his theology to the civil authorities.

    Well, it didn’t take long for Zwingli to be renounced as a backslider by some in the city who decided to baptize each other as well demonstrate their newly found priesthood of the believer by communicating with bread and drinking wine. They were subsequently mocked and ridiculed as Anabaptist – rebaptizers. Of course, all this nonsense required more legislation, which eventually led to some of these criminal radicals being solemnly drowned in the River Lammat.

    Martyrs I suppose, but martyrs for what, a tragic misconception? They believed what they believed. And so, we see the radical reformation taking shape, rejecting what is referred to as the magisterial reformation, promulgated by Luther and Zwingli and those who would follow. Their alliances weren’t with the civil magistrates to further the Kingdom on earth, no way! There’s was with God alone! All others had confused the Church with the world in their attempts at a Christian commonwealth! And hence, the Schleitheim Confession of 1527, bemoaning false brethren, and calling all to a separation from the abomination. And on and on and on…

    Meanwhile Luther was having similar problems of his own – he had started a civil war! And what would be the end result of all of this? Revolution.

    Once upon a time, there was a little boy, a very loving and beautiful boy, who loved his parents so. One day he was arrested and thrown into the dungeon. Above him his mother and father were brutally murdered, yet, he never knew it. After such a long time of mistreatment by his captors, he was very sick and near death from starvation, when one of the jailers came into his cell to show him a little kindness as he died.

    Let me riddle you this. Who was this boy? No, I’ll tell you.

    He was the last King of France! The last divinely appointed Monarch.

    His parents were executed by a motley crew of rabble rousers under the influence of protestant theology who couldn’t leave well enough alone. They had to finish the dirty deed done cheap. The heir to the throne was a real problem for them, wasn’t he? And why was that? What were they so afraid of? A ten year old boy?

    Luther, Calvin, and the radicals following, would appeal to the writings of Augustine to justify their schismatic rebellion against the Church; and in the process develop various heretical doctrines, irresistible grace being one of them. The Augustinian – Pelagian debate, however, was not central to their cause. Jakobus Arminius’ theology was condemned at the Synod of Dordt in 1618 for daring to suggest that one could resist the grace of God and be lost; this didn’t set well with the Dutch Calvinist’s idea of predestination in the northern Netherlands .

    The whole thing became such a powder keg, that it was eventually turned over to the political establishment and became a power struggle between the veteran statesman Johan Van Oldenbarnevelt and the life long military leader Prince Maurits. The lines were drawn, and after a successful military coup by the prince, the Arminian Remonstrants were defeated both theologically and politically, and the Synod concluded with Oldenbarnevelt’s judicial murder.

    Jakobus Arminius was seen as a traitor against the Duthch Calvinists’ struggle for independence from Spain , and their theology was part of their national identity, so it is understandable why they were so serious about their religion. The five point of Calvinism that were articulated at this disputation with such ferocity against the Arminians remain unchanged to this day.

    It was Calvin’s main disciple, Theodore Beza’s double predestination; that both the elect and the dam*ed were predestined, and hence the limited Atonement, that was so troublesome to the acute mind of such a one as one Jakobus Arminius. Arminius would reject Beza’s supralapsarianism and begin to publicly express his doubts about all of it.

    Of course, all of this is not to be confused with English ‘Arminians’ who were more concerned with distinguishing themselves from reformed Protestantism in their ceremonial worship and emphasis on the sacraments in the Church of England. I know, it can get confusing, but there were really no parallels between Dutch and English Arminianism except in name only: probably to express a similarity in the seriousness of the rebellions that affected both reformed orthodoxy and as well as Dutch Protestantism.

    The English Arminians would ultimately be the ones who would persecute the puritans as separatists, cropping off the ears of the more noisome of the bunch. In some respects the English saw themselves as offering a more authentic Catholicism that what one could find in Rome . The puritans would get no concessions for church reform from the King; however they did get their King James Bible in 1611, which they would bring to New England along with the covenant theology of William Perkins.

    The Catholic Church condemned the kind of savage pessimism in the writings of Michael Baius in 1567 and 1579 that Arminius found so objectionable in Calvin’s theology. One Jansen Cornelius couldn’t take a hint apparently, and continued the rebellion of Baius, developing a theology that he saw reflected in the writings of Augustine that contrasted with Jesuit teachings in safeguarding the will. It was from the thoughts of Luis de Molina where the Jesuits got their inspiration. Molina developed a theology of future contingencies that was consistent with Augustine’s theology as well as the free will of man. Jansen would eventually refuse to accept the appointment of a Bishop by the Pope, influence another Bishop to appoint someone else, and advocate for what he called the ‘Old Catholic Church’, as opposed to the one in which he found himself. What has come to be referred to as Jansenism would eventually be condemned by the Church as heretical.

    Jansen would devote some twenty years of his life to the development of a treatise on grace entitled “Augustinus” and leave it for publication upon his death; this work contained a detailed critique of that age old controversy between Augustine and Pelagius and continuing with the dismantling of Molinism.

    This is where we can find the Augustinian – Pelagian debate within the context of the reformation period, not within the protestant divisions. Jansen would conduct his own reformation within the Catholic Church while the Jesuits were conduction the counter-reformation without. It was the genius of Molina and the commitment of both schools of thought to Augustine’s theology of the Church that allowed truth to prevail. The issue of the nature of sin and how it is to be viewed within the human condition was settled here, not in the protestant camp, or the mind of someone who rejects the Magisterium.

    The Molinism as articulated by the Jesuits, in competition with Jansen’s thesis of Augustine, incorporates not only the issue of free will and future contingencies and Augustine’s theology of Soteriology, but also brings the issue of original sin into view in a way that the Arminians’ conflict with the Calvinists could not.

    The bitter resentments between protestant camps in their reformation cause pale in comparison to the viciousness inflicted upon the Jesuits by the Jansenists. It is here that we must look to view the fundamental and underlying issues that confronted and shaped the reformation dilemma in order to see them take shape and play out in a manner that brings resolution and satisfaction to a mind that demands it.

    To continue to look to those who would follow in the footsteps of the protestant reformers in the hopes of finding a satisfactory resolution to these all important theological difficulties that confront us is folly. It is like a man who looks down a well to find the answers to his problems, only to see a reflection of his own face instead.

    The distinction between the various protestant confessions that developed after the reformation turned on the definitions of predestination as well as the relationship the Sacraments had with Soteriology.

    Christendom is at stake. Just as the radical reformers attack on infant baptism was perceived as an attack on Christendom by the magisterial reformers as well as the Catholic Church; so it is today. As schismatic radicals continue to baptize adults into heretical belief systems that deny original sin and advocate some kind of perfectionism, they continue to foster a fractionalization of an integrated Divine view of Christendom.

    What protestants are advocating is anathema to a Divine view of community. They are creating the very societal anomalies that they rail against.

    The establishment of an empire through the union of culture religion and society, with its members sealed through Baptism was not a corruption of the Church; it is the fulfillment of the Great Commission. Christ told His Apostles, “Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.”

    And that’s exactly what they did, and have been doing through Apostolic succession.

    It is what awaits us when the Church will once again worship God, as in ancient days.

    RbM

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  5. Athanasius

    spookchristian
    Perhaps a better username for you would be ‘spoofchristian,’ as you obviously accept nothing of the Christian tradition handed down.

    So let’s start with the Bible, which you appear to interpret according to your own lights rather than the light of faith.

    Matthew 28:20: “I am with you all days, to the consumation of the world.” These words of Our Lord were addressed to the Apostles just after He had commanded them to go and teach all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. There’s your Scriptural evidence for the divine origin of “Apostolic Succession”.

    Note also the Gospel evidence of the election of Matthias over Joseph Barsabbas to replace Judas Iscariot [Acts 1:24–25]. The Apostles prayed thus: “Thou, Lord, who knowest the hearts of all men, show whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.”

    Are you seriously contending in the face of such evidence, not to mention a 2000-year unbroken line of Catholic Popes and bishops, that it was not in the mind of Christ Our Lord to found a Church with Apostolic Succession that would teach and sanctify souls to the end of time? If so, I would sure like to have your thoughts on how this knowledge you think you have managed to escape the great minds of the Christian Saints and Doctors for 2000 years.

    Concerning the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, I will attempt to explain as best I can why it is perfectly logical that she was assumed body and soul into heaven, since it is clear that you can’t grasp this truth by faith.

    Let me begin by correcting a grave error you made in an earlier post. Catholics do not “worship” the Virgin Mary, as Protestants are wont to declare God alone is worthy of worship, for God alone is divine.

    Mary is a creature created by God and is therefore not an object of worship for Catholics. However, of all creation there is no creature like Mary, who alone was preserved from the stain of the Original Sin in order that her blessed womb may be a fit dwelling for the Son of God Incarnate. The devil, having domination over the rest of fallen human nature was to have no domination over Mary, lest it be said that the Son of God was born of a woman who was at any time in her life subject to Satan. Doesn’t that sound Catholic doctrine, preached by the saints from the earliest Christian times, make sense to you?

    If one were to contend that Mary was subject at some time in her life to Satan, and if one were to further contend that Mary was not a Virgin before, during and after the birth of Christ, then one would effectively be contending that Christ is not God and therefore the entire Christian Faith is a big lie.

    Anyway, did not Christ perform His first public miracle (Cana) at the request of His Mother, even though His time had not yet come? And did not Jesus, from the Cross, confide all Christians, in the person of St. John, to Mary, their “Mother”?

    This should tell you something about the honour Jesus paid to His Mother. And was she not praying at the head of the Apsotles on that first Pentecost when the Holy Ghost descended upon them?

    So, if Jesus Christ so honoured His Mother in life, is it remotely possible that He would permit her body to decay in death, a consequence of the Original Sin which she did not share with the rest of men?

    And here’s another question for you: Is it possible, do you think, that mere creatures of God could outdo God Himself in honouring His Mother?

    If you are a genuine person, despite your angry condemnations, which St. James rightly says “worketh not the justice of God”, then you need to reflect very seriously on these supernatural matters. Consider the hints God has given us in nature. We all have a father and a mother, for example. Well, in heaven it is the same; God is our Father and Mary is our Mother, just as Jesus declared from the Cross.

    Here is the wisdom of the saints for you to contemplate:

    “All true children of God have God for their father and Mary for his mother; anyone who does not have Mary for his mother, does not have God for his father.”
    Saint Louis Marie de Montfort

    “If anyone does not believe that Holy Mary is the Mother of God, such a one is a stranger to the Godhead.”
    Saint Gregory Nazianzen, Father and Doctor of the Church

    ”It is impossible to save one’s soul without devotion to Mary and without her protection.”
    Saint Anselm, Archbishop and Doctor of the Church

    ”We may seek graces, but shall never find them without the intercession of Mary.”
    Saint Cajetan, Founder of the Theatines

    ”Jesus honored her before all ages, and will honor her for all ages. No one comes to Him, nor even near Him, no one is saved or sanctified, if he too will not honor her. This is the lot of Angels and of men.”
    Saint Maximilian Mary Kolbe, Martyr

    “The Virgin Mary, being obedient to his word, received from an angel the glad tidings that she would bear God”
    Saint Irenaeus, Father of the Church

    “O sinner, be not discouraged, but have recourse to Mary in all you necessities. Call her to your assistance, for such is the divine Will that she should help in every kind of necessity.”
    Saint Basil the Great

    “No matter how sinful one may have been, if he has devotion to Mary, it is impossible that he be lost.”
    Saint Hilary of Poitiers – Bishop, Father, and Doctor of the Church

    “With reason did the Most Holy Virgin predict that all generations would call her blessed, for all the Elect obtain eternal salvation through the means of Mary.”
    Saint Ildephonsus, Bishop

    “No one will ever be the servant of the Son without serving the Mother.”
    Saint Ildephonsus, Bishop

    “Devotion to you, O Blessed Virgin, is a means of salvation which God gives to those whom he wishes to save.”
    Saint John Damascene

    “Even while living in the world, the heart of Mary was so filled with motherly tenderness and compassion for men that no-one ever suffered so much for their own pains, as Mary suffered for the pains of her children.”
    Saint Jerome, Father and Doctor of the Church

    The day of the Nativity of the Mother of God is a day of universal joy, because through the Mother of God, the entire human race was renewed, and the sorrow of the first mother, Eve, was transformed into joy.”
    Saint John Damascene, Father and Doctor of the Church

    “Let us not imagine that we obscure the glory of the Son by the great praise we lavish on the Mother; for the more she is honored, the greater is the glory of her Son. There can be no doubt that whatever we say in praise of the Mother gives equal praise to the Son.”
    Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, Father and Doctor of the Church

    ”Woe to those who despise devotion to Mary! . . . The soul cannot live without having recourse to Mary and recommending itself to her. He falls and is lost who does not have recourse to Mary.”
    Saint Alphonsus Maria Liguori, Doctor of the Church and Founder of the Redemptorists

    “Mary having co-operated in our redemption with so much glory to God and so much love for us, Our Lord ordained that no one shall obtain salvation except through her intercession.”
    St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori

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